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replies to hash table comments
- To: common-lisp@SAIL.STANFORD.EDU
- Subject: replies to hash table comments
- From: Dave.Touretzky@C.CS.CMU.EDU
- Date: Fri 13 May 88 23:33:21-EDT
To JonL: Yes, *PRINT-HASH* would be a switch analogous to *PRINT-ARRAY*.
If T, then the contents of the hash table would be displayed. If NIL, then
the current #<HASH-TABLE ...> notation would be used. The initial value of
the switch would be implementation-dependent.
To Mlynarik: I'm not thrilled with the idea of generalizing #S to objects
other than defstructs, but I guess that's a matter of personal taste.
By the way, Symbolics writes pathnames as #P"/usr/dst/foo.bar".
To Moon: there are three reasons why DESCRIBE doesn't solve the problems
that arise in teaching beginners about hash tables:
1. In some implementations, DESCRIBE does not show the contents of a
hash table. CMU Common Lisp currently displays this regrettable (but
2. It is a hassle for a beginner to have to type (describe my-table)
every time he wants to see what's inside his hash table. And if
he's passing the hash table as an argument to a function, it would
be nice if its contents could be displayed automatically by TRACE
or by the debugger simply by setting *PRINT-HASH* to T. This kind
of behavior would make hash tables a first class "visible" data
structure, as easy to understand as lists and vectors.
3. The proposed #H notation would make it possible to read and write
hash tables from files, and to create them interactively with a single
expression rather than doing a MAKE-HASH-TABLE and a bunch of SETF's.
To recap, the proposal was that if *PRINT-HASH* was T, then hash tables would
be displayed as #nH(type (key1 . value1) (key2 . value2) ...) where "n" was
the size of the table and "type" was one of EQ, EQL, or EQUAL. When reading a
#H expression it should be possible to omit the numeric argument, in which case
the system will pick some reasonable size based on the number of key/value
pairs supplied. It should also be possible to omit the type, in which case EQL
So #H((FOO . 37) (BAR . 42)) might print as #20H(EQL (FOO . 37) (BAR . 42)).